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Alan Turing didn't do crap. He had it all laid out by Poles.

It seems curious that while the Germans could decode everything sent by the British Admiralty as early as 1935, it took the Polish genius to grasp enigma...... One wonders in this age when the numbingly sloppy wests vast conglomerates haven't isolated their engineering, design, formulaic, and technical technical computer networks from their global Internet networks? to me this leaves Alice in Wonderland in the dust, "curious and curiouser" ? :(

Thank you for acknowledgment of the Polish geniuses.

I watched "The Imitation Game" about Enigma and Turing. Not a word about the Polish contributions. Now his chemical castration. Many inaccuracies and none were necessary to make a great movie.

Wash ur mouth out , it was british british british and dont u forget it

Success has many fathers while failure is an orphan.

Poland has always rescued Europe from the days the Polish knights came to break the siege of Vienna by the Islamic hordes under the Sultan. And they fought bravely against Stalin while the allies pandered to that communist dictator responsible for 30 million deaths. And Poland will be on the front line to fight the Putin invasion of Europe too.

Which version? The really early ones were broken by the Poles without question. But they knew that would not continue once things got more complicated. The thing that hits me most, though, is that the UK shafted Turing, the single person most responsible for keeping Enigma alive throughout WW2. Churchill and senior governmental figures knew exactly what they owed, but threw him to the wolves because he was homosexual. Not a thing that should be forgiven or forgotten.

The British "broke" the way the Enigma machine changed codes with each message, but about a dozen rural Postmasters from tiny New England towns ACTULLY "broke" the code. They were accustomed to sorting local mail by memory. They "solved" the code by playing the "Hangman Game". What letter is most common in German, then what Word is most common in German, then what instructions are sent to U-Boats most often. In about a month, the Postmasters could "read" (though NONE of them spoke or could read German) Enigma messages with 90-95% accuracy. With some "fine tuning" by MIT, WITHOUT a working Enigma machine, the US Navy was 'reading" messages to and from U-Boats BETTER than the sub Enigma operators! When the US Navy captured a working Enigma machine from U-122 (rammed by a US destroyer escort), we didn't bother using it. OUR "version" of the cipher was more "correct" than the machine's. -Source Adm. Samuel Elliot Morrison's "The Two Ocean War"-1947 Random House.

Shocking!

Sounds anti white woke to me

it wasa bunch of woke lies that said alan turing broke the codes Turing had served time in prison for raping boys he would hang about outside schools to chat with the boys Trinity college was a nest of nasty communists who helped the UK enter the war on the soide of Rusia our enemy since 1917 these traitors at trinity have never apologised for their crimes

I have not been able to find a resource to support this, but I understand that the individuals.....about 30 Poles who were involved in the Intelligence of breaking codes were arrested, tortured and finally executed by ther Germans. The report is that not one of the Poles broke faith and provided any information regarding their code-breaking efforts to the Germans. FWIW.

The Polish breakthrough was key to breaking Enigma throughout the war. It would have happened later or never without the prior work of the Polish Cypher Bureau and Marian Rejewski's breakthrough. In his 2019 book David Kenyon describes the bigger picture of Bletchley Park's work. It was the first modern intelligence organisation, an organised effort to collect all intelligence (traffic, signals and human), analyze it and then co-ordinate with the various customers in the military and the government to deliver what was relevant to that customer. Enigma was only a part of that intelligence.

Yep. Prof R.V. Jones explains it well in his book "Most Secret War."

Poland did of course.

Dublin? Have the Irish any interest in WW2 or are they the only people who still listen to Polish grandiosity?

What about the German Intelligence officer who sold much information on, ‘Enigma’ to the Poles ? He gave them the boost they needed at a critical time and not that he wanted to help, but for hard cash.

Poles broke the enigma then why weren't they prepared for the German invasion?

Fascinating subject, spoiled by the needlessly loud and unnecessary background music.

A very interesting few words, what is all that bloody awful noise rumbling on as he talks, added on by a complete numpty no doubt.

I read somewhere that the British military attaché in Switzerland managed to purchase civilian version of the Enigma machine at an arms fair before the war and sent it to the War Office in London. They promptly sent it off to a government warehouse, where it remained untouched throughout the war.

The British and French were “unreliable allies”? You mean two countries who got themselves involved in a world war because of a treaty they didn’t have to sign, to help Poland? How more reliable can you get - losing millions of men to help your ally?

Call me cynical but Enigma could have been ‘cracked’ by an unknown person of colour who chose to gift the glory to a struggling white scientist. (History as re-written 2024)

More anti-British sentiment.

How dare Dermot Turing refer to Britain as an unreliable ally!!. We declared war on Germany in terms of a mutual defence pact with Poland, I wonder whether Poland would have done the same had the Germans invaded us.

So pleased to see the Poles getting credit for laying the foundation.

Here in Glasgow I’ve surprised a few Poles on my knowledge of the betrayal of Poland by the British and Churchill.

The Polish dudes did some nice works, but I did not know that they made a copy of the machine..... brilliant. The Swedish guy Bjorklund a mathematician did some calculation on the Enigma because the transfer of info went thru Sweden in the war after Norway was occupied and the swedes got the possibilities to spy on it. He later on got the office after Einstein at the USA university, so we can say he was some dude who knew math.....

It's amusing the no one in the only 68 Comments so far has noticed the name of the Speaker/Author. He is the nephew of Alan Turing.

Enigma was invented in 1918 and sold in the 20s for commercial encryption. Its surprising that it was virtually unknown to allied nations.

Hats off to the Poles

brits have always been bastards

True so far is it goes. But the Poles knew they could not keep up with improvements to the Enigma machines and their choice to pass on the knowledge was very impressive. Another thing to remember is that Turing was a true genius and his country betrayed him utterly after the war.

Turing sidekick was born in Canty s field cork

Tommy Flowers

She is so cute!

Colossus had nothing to do with enigma, or Turing it was built to decrypt the traffic generated by the lorenz machine, a machine that was infinitely more complex than enigma, and it was the main means of communication used by the german high command.

And Gordon Welchman is not given nearly enough credit for his work. He’s the man who made analysis of what we now call metadata a key intelligence field. Even when the Enigma coded messages couldn’t be broken in time to read the message, Welchman reasoned that just knowing German message traffic was unusually heavy (or light) gave British Intelligence a hint of where there was going to be action.

The Poles deserved better allies.

The final battle of good and evil is happening right now.

So history is somewhat misleading and another great story for other people to dine out on ,yet still we do not learn!

I’ve worked with the Polish authorities, they are an exceptional ally and we should be thankful to them for their help (today and then). The Germans were so close to developing ordinance and fast flight that could have defeated the allied U.K. forces. The Polish are a great people and the U.K. civil servants should remember that instead of being their usual elite selves.

The Polish worked on it for about a year,and yes, it was they who handed the machine to the British.

Yeah, just like the Brits condemend Turing for being of "unsavory" sexual preference, never mind his achievements, unlike a trully drunkward sailor wannabe, who single handed won the Battle of Brittain whilst being stupidly drunk...

The British had enigma machines in 1939.

This narrative is entirely fake, both sides of the war were working to precisely the same plan (kill as many humans as possible). Why do we always fall for their lies eh?

"And for all their bravery and all their sacrifice, the "allies" would betray Poland and sell her to the soviets for 30 pieces of silver. Never have so many been betrayed by so few for so little. May God forgive us." -- Col Michael Radcliff

Absolutely fascinating,

And the building of Colossus by Tommy Flowers a Post Office engineer was also an invaluable part of cracking the Enigma . Dermot Turing's uncle Alan, said that it was almost impossible to achieve what Tommy Flowers and his team built . The worlds first electronic computer.